I’ll keep this one short. Tomorrow I’m headed to Minneapolis for TypeCon 2003 to talk about sites like this one. Should be fun. Also happening tomorrow night, a few of us Speak Up authors (Chris May, Brook Lorntson, Ben Kiel and Darrel Austin) are getting together for some BBQ at Rudolphs at 8:30 pm. Come by if you feel like hanging out with us. Look for the dude with the scruffy hair, not-so-trimmed goatee and a crazy bumblebee tatto on his wrist.
Is it bad? I think we still have time for some recommendations. It has to be close to the Walker, since that's where we will be at that time. Brook had also suggested The Red Dragon (which sounds scary) and Mortimers. And Darrel recommended Gluek's. I have no clue what's what, as long as there is good food and it's not too noisy I'm game.
On Jul.16.2003 at 10:22 AMIs the Loring Cafe still open? Used to be across the street from the Walker and was one of my favorite restaurants in town.
There's a bunch more restaurants up Hennepin, but it could be a hike. Hey, there's Sydney's up Hennepin. All of the really stellar places are more central downtown, near the big hotels.
Be careful choosing restaurants in Mnpls. The curve falls really, really fast. Never trust the fish special.
On Jul.16.2003 at 10:28 AMIs Rudolph's the Tortilla Flats of Minneapolis? Still, key lime pie.....
On Jul.16.2003 at 10:30 AMThe Loring was a bit of controversy this past year. It closed when the landlord decided to let a chain restuarant in.
For the record, I've never been to Gluek's nor Rudolph's, so I'm game for either. I do like a good BBQ, though. Mmmmmm...meat...
And Tan's fish advice is spot-on.
We could, of course, visit the new Block E entertainment Megaplex and meat at the Hard Rock Cafe!
(I'm kidding, of course.)
On Jul.16.2003 at 10:42 AMI don't understand why everyone just doesn't live in New York.
On Jul.16.2003 at 10:50 AMI don't understand why everyone just doesn't live in New York.
Right.
On Jul.16.2003 at 11:13 AMKiran, i thought once of skipping town for Mpls. That little city is downright livable now. I'm constantly surprised how much design is going on there. Must be the apocalyptic weather patterns that keeps the creative juices churning.
But for the life of me i wouldn't wish a paper route on Lake Calhoun in the winter upon anyone.
On Jul.16.2003 at 11:22 AMHere's a few reasons, Yorkers:
> the rent's fucking $1,500 a month for a rat hole
> it's fucking 100 degrees with 100% humidity in the summer sometimes
> it's goddamn cold in the winter, yet there's no place to ski unless you go to New Hampshire
> parking downtown costs more than the value of your car, and all the meters are taken by cabs or foreign consulates
> the closest nature is a rat in the alley
> every other restaurant is goddamn vegetarian or celebrity-owned
> and lastly, too many fucking tourists
That's enough for now I think.
back to food in Mpls. Isn't there a Famous Dave's bbq in Uptown. And let's see, there used to be an awesome bbq joint in the warehouse district -- called J.D.Hoyt's or something like that.
too bad about the Loring. Goddamn shame.
On Jul.16.2003 at 11:30 AMrudolphs is the 'famous' local barbq. i think most people like it. there are plenty of other places to go. i say we stick to the uptown area, as its right near the walker, and we aren't sure exactly when the event is done there.
i say we still meet at rudolphs, and if we decide to change our minds...there are several places within a block or two to walk to.
actually... leaning tower of pizza is another block away and is really really good. usually wins the best pizza in the twin cities awards. so if people are skeptical of barbq, i say we go there.
On Jul.16.2003 at 12:02 PM> i say we still meet at rudolphs, and if we decide to change our minds...there are several places within a block or two to walk to.
Sounds good let's do that. Not that I expect a huge crowd to join us or anything, but if we do change our minds we'll tell somebody at rudolph's where we went. Just ask for the "Speak Up Party."
On Jul.16.2003 at 12:11 PMThat little city is downright livable now.
I'm sure it is. The winters must suck. Boston sucked in the winter too.
"Ha ha ha. Exactly."
And at least it doesn't rain every day like Seattle. I'd go crazy.
On Jul.16.2003 at 12:21 PMBut for the life of me i wouldn't wish a paper route on Lake Calhoun in the winter upon anyone.
I'm thinking the tips you'd get on Lake Calhoun would offset any bad weather. ;o)
The winters must suck.
That's what curling, hockey, and skiing were invented for. ;)
On Jul.16.2003 at 12:55 PM> And at least it doesn't rain every day like Seattle. I'd go crazy.
That's totally a myth btw. There's less yearly precipitation here than Atlanta, Houston, Minneapolis and a dozen other metropolitan areas. Summers are freaking beautiful -- and the winters are mild. No hurricanes, blizzards, tornadoes, or heat waves.
eh...this is getting to be a retarded discussion. NY is awesome I'll admit.
Have fun at TypeCon you guys. I'm off on vacation myself next week -- going to Vancouver Island in BC with the fam for some golf and a few days of doing nuthin.
On Jul.16.2003 at 12:57 PMSo, I say, some New York (or Brooklyn) people get together and prove that there is more than Rudolph's. Yes, New York is hot, but that's the point.
On Jul.16.2003 at 01:28 PMeh...this is getting to be a retarded discussion. NY is awesome I'll admit.
Just teasing Tan, I want to visit Seattle. Especially your 4 Mini Cooper driving designer friends.
On Jul.16.2003 at 01:45 PMSorry, I didn't think my little snipe on Rudolph's would spark such a riot. If you're going to be at the Walker, then it makes sense... it's the closest place, except for maybe the liquor store and a fancy restaurant or two on Hennepin & Franklin.
On Jul.16.2003 at 03:13 PM> two words: 80 below.
no shit. dude.
when I worked there, we used to walk 3 blocks from my office to this pizza joint. One winter, I was returning with a Coke in my hand -- by the time I got back, it had turned into icy slush in the can. I think it was -40 wind chill that day.
you have no idea what cold is until you've lived there.
> Just teasing Tan, I want to visit Seattle.
ah hell, I know that. And I want to go back to NY. We should swap jobs for a week.
On Jul.16.2003 at 03:47 PMTan,
yeah, there was a bad year where i was out pushing the cart around in a couple of feet of snow right on the lake and the windchill was -80.
i would do one block and then run for a highrise and sit on their heating vent for 20 mins until i could feel my legs again. it's so cold that you had to pry your eyelids apart after you blinked.
such sweet memories of mpls.
On Jul.16.2003 at 04:09 PMIn the immortal words of Mark Twain, "Everybody talks about the weather, but nobody does anything about it."
On Jul.16.2003 at 04:19 PMPerhaps this message will help thaw things out:
Right now, in my little corner of the San Fernando Valley north and west of Los Angeles, it is 102 degrees with enough humidity to make it feel like you're walking around in a car wash. Blahh.
On Jul.16.2003 at 06:28 PMI don't understand why everyone just doesn't live in New York.
Because some of us would rather live in San Francisco.
Tan - Sara's from Vancouver Island... whereabouts are you going?
On Jul.16.2003 at 07:02 PMnow I also grew up in Houston, otherwise known as Hell. Now let me tell you some stories about heat...man, you don't know what hot is...
On Jul.16.2003 at 07:07 PM>Tan - Sara's from Vancouver Island... whereabouts are you going?
Oh, I love the Island -- it feels totally European, like Scotland or an English countryside somewhere. We're staying at a resort in Victoria, then we're going to Salt Springs Island and another Gulf Island with a golf course that I can't remember the name of right now. Nothing complicated, just short road trips and try to enjoy the weather, some good food, and hopefully, not contract SARS ;-).
On Jul.16.2003 at 07:12 PMSo, Ben, after all this stuff you provoked will we see you there?
Final word: 8:30 pm tomorrow outside of Rudolphs, we'll take it from there.
I'll be back on monday! Happy discussions everyone. If anyone is looking to pick an on-line fight with me, you will have to wait until then. I'm gonna go get my typographic groove on now.
Yes, Houston is hot as shit. I was there one summer: 117 degrees.
On Jul.16.2003 at 08:51 PMYou guys going to miss the Matthew Carter presentation? I wouldn't advise it. The Walker font is something pretty special. Rudolph's is tasty but not THAT tasty.
Also, I'd suggest perusing the Walker bookstore's design book section.
On Jul.17.2003 at 06:02 AMAfter all I fuss I made, I guess I better try to make it.
On Jul.17.2003 at 08:10 AMOn a related note...
Anybody planning to attend the AIGA Conference in October?
On Jul.17.2003 at 10:41 AM"The Power of Design" will focus on the extraordinary opportunities for designing in the 21st century. Designers will play critical roles in the success of our rebounding economy—both as agents of social change in a complex world and as leading architects of sustainable solutions for a troubled planet.
Sounds like the convention theme warrants its own thread. ;o)
On Jul.17.2003 at 11:32 AM> Anybody planning to attend the AIGA Conference in October?
I'll be there Paul. You going?
It's my neck of the woods, sort of, so if any of you need more info on alternative hotels or have transportation questions -- let me know.
On Jul.17.2003 at 11:40 AMI'm seriously considering it. I'm currently trying to figure out if I can afford to bring the whole family with me, and weighing that against the "cost" of leaving my wife home alone with the kids for 4 nights...
One question: how easy is it to get around Vancouver without a car? 'Cause I could fly in to Seattle and drive on up or fly in to BC directly and rely on public transport...
On Jul.17.2003 at 11:58 AMThere's no subway in Vancouver, only buses and an ok monorail line. Plus, the city's pretty big -- so I would suggest getting a car if you want to sight-see beyond the conference hotel's vicinity. There are parks, museums, lighthouses, and other attractions that are better accessed with your own car. Course, downtown Vancouver has plenty of things to do too. If that's all you want to do, then walking and taxis will more than suffice.
Think SanFran for reference. Tons of stuff to do downtown, but lots more if you have a car and want to venture out further. Vancouver's very similar in size, terrain, and sprawl.
If the tickets are the same price, I'd fly in to Vancouver, and decide on a car once you're there. It's a tourist city, so you shouldn't have any problems finding rentals.
On Jul.17.2003 at 12:36 PM
The Food
Hand-rubbed with spices and slow-cooked, the barbecue here is irresistibly sweet and tender. Portions are gigantic, so a starter isn't really necessary. The beef brisket sandwich combines medallions of falling-apart meat with sweet, tangy sauce. Or try a half-dozen sauce-slathered baby back ribs topped with a quarter juicy chicken. Still, the reason most folks visit is the full slab of glistening, meaty spare ribs, complete with creamy coleslaw and a pile of skin-on mashed potatoes. Dessert? If Key lime pie is being featured, go for it.
damn you all!
On Jul.16.2003 at 10:12 AM