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Martin Venezky Speaks Up
By Silas Munro

A few months ago I had the opportunity to talk with Martin Venezky about his new book, It is Beautiful…Then Gone. We met for the first time at the Schools of Thought 2 conference in LA. It was right after a very controversial (and fascinating) roundtable called “Reconsidering the Discipline” that was artfully chaired by Sean Donahue of Research Centered Design.

Strangely enough all of the panelists were former or current students of Martin’s. They were getting a lot of critical fire from members of the audience for their quite provocative (and stimulating) views on both the practice and instruction of graphic design. Martin came to their defense in such an eloquent and moving way I had to go up and talk to him.

Though I have followed his work for some time I didn’t realize how rich his thinking on the matter was. Experiencing his book parallels my own encounter with Martin. You will first be drawn in by the beauty of his work, but as you read the text you begin to see the deep care and thought he brings to his work. He is constantly grappling with the design process and his personal voice in each project he undertakes.

It is Beautiful…Then Gone is a superb collection of Martin’s best pieces, but its real treasure lies in the written and visual assemblage of the designer, the teacher, and the man behind a tremendous body of work.

> Read the interview.

Silas Munro currently is a designer at VSA Partners, INC. in Chicago, IL and affiliated with the design collective Prototype Syndicate. He is the recipient of a year long Design Fellowship from the Walker Art Center in Minneapolis, holds a BFA from the Rhode Island School of Design, studied poetry at Brown University, and is a burgeoning fine artist and writer of design criticism.

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feelicks sockwl jr’s comment is:

I recall the work of Appetite Engineers fondly. Did Martin lose that name? Too bad. I'll have to take a look at that book. Thx, F

On Aug.03.2005 at 11:32 AM
DC1974’s comment is:

I was a student at CCA(C) when Venesky naught there. He was controversial within the program. He and Michael Vanderbyl did not get along and did not view design education in the same way. Venesky was eventual forced from teaching undergrads and so they were able to sort of divide up the program in that way, considering the assembly line nature of the undergrad program -- that I left to study film -- I'm not sure that arrangement benefited the school.

On Aug.03.2005 at 12:37 PM
Kenneth FitzGerald’s comment is:

Kenneth Fitzgerald and some other design critics feel monographs are… well, over.

I do? You must mean this Kenneth Fitzgerald. Or him? Or him?

On Aug.03.2005 at 03:14 PM
Silas Munro’s comment is:

I was actually thinking of one of your recent essays for Emigré. Was it Buzz Kill where you talk about the sorry state of Designer Monographs? Or was it the infamous Quietude essay for Rant? I think Sagmeister, Tolleson, and even Kalman are mentioned...Now that I think of it I'm pretty sure it's Rant, but I'll go back and check.

On Aug.04.2005 at 11:21 AM
Silas Munro’s comment is:

I was actually thinking of one of your recent essays for Emigré. Was it Buzz Kill where you talk about the sorry state of Designer Monographs? Or was it the infamous Quietude essay for Rant? I think Sagmeister, Tolleson, and even Kalman are mentioned...Now that I think of it I'm pretty sure it's Rant, but I'll go back and check.

On Aug.04.2005 at 11:21 AM
Kenneth FitzGerald’s comment is:

I've certainly expressed problems with some designer monographs (and in the essays you mention), however, I wouldn't boil my comments down to saying they're "over." I interpret that as meaning I claimed that producing such volumes should be subject to the whims of celebrity and trends. That's not my stance. I say, bring on any monograph, anytime--and I'll tell you what I think of it. And in Rant, my larger point was how poor the state of criticism was for monographs. (Speaking of Martin Venesky's book, I've been disappointed at the lack of reviews of it, so much so that I contemplated writing one myself.)

Am I being fussy? Having spent a significant amount of time crafting specific criticisms of the books and their subjects, it's unfortunate to have them all represented by two words--and inaccurate ones at that. I think it does more disservice to the books and the designers I critiqued.

If you insisted on singling me out (and that's appropriate), I would have framed the question this way: "Did the criticisms of monographs expressed by critics like Kenneth FitzGerald affect how you approached your book?" That would be fair to everyone involved.

Then again, as a dirty postmodernist, maybe I should delight in the "readings-into" that occur with my essays.

On Aug.04.2005 at 02:29 PM
Tselentis’s comment is:

Silas, this is a great interview that reveals a lot about Martin's workings and inspiration. It's rewarding to read about designers that work from the inside out, and crave older (more difficult) technologies.

On Aug.05.2005 at 12:35 PM
biennale’s comment is:

That's the beauty about Martin's work, (and this book), is that they could be read on so many levels, and something new and deeper is revealed each time. The writing is really excellent, will definitely be appreciated by the thinking designer.

On Aug.06.2005 at 03:18 AM
Armin’s comment is:

Silas, thanks for the effort on the interview, and, Martin, thanks for complying with Silas' questions.

It is Beautiful… is a great book. Not only is it good looking, it is revealing and is exactly the kind of insight I would look for in a monograph. This book shows the, sometimes painful, approach of the designer to get work done and this is more powerful than glossy shot after glossy shot of finished projects.

Plus, getting insight into the obession of Martin's work is a real treat. I love obsessive designers.

On Aug.07.2005 at 09:37 AM
Jason Tselentis’s comment is:

I love looking at the thumbnails of his work, and at first glance, some of them looked a lot like Karel Martens work.

On Aug.07.2005 at 10:35 AM
gregor’s comment is:

Love Venezky's work, philosophy and approach. It is Beautiful… is a lovely book, but it was not designed for those of us wearing trifocals as a result of staring at badly aliased type in quark for a decade. Everytime I go book shopping I want to buy the book, I want to read it, but (seriously), it hurts my eyes to try. I'm waiting for the large print edition ;/>

On Aug.09.2005 at 07:55 PM
big steve’s comment is:

I just came across this randomly. I just have to say that SPEAK changed the way i looked at design and at designing for consumption (as opposed to the impractical stuff i was learning in art school). Amazing. Thanks for the inspiration!

On Mar.10.2007 at 06:41 PM