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After months of hard work during these hot summer weekends I have finally been able to finish this update. It was fun but tough and my cats went hungry for a few days because I didn’t pay enough attention to them. But here it is. I hope you enjoy it!!!!!

Definitely let me know what you think. Yes, even if you hate it.

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PUBLISHED ON Sep.05.2002 BY Armin
pedro vit’s comment is:


Guess your cats will forgive you in view of the results and design, maybe, comes first?? - hope catlovers dont stone me for this comment.

You have a very special sense of humor (regardless of the truly profound and thoughtful comments on any issue) which permeates your interventions.

Good luck and I do hope this website starts boiling!!!

On Sep.05.2002 at 01:14 PM
aaron gillihan’s comment is:

i love typography, and your site looks great. i see you're using movabletype to organize. sweet isn't it? i used their product as the core for our family site as well.

keep up the good work.


On Sep.07.2002 at 11:54 PM
steven g’s comment is:

This is a lot better than your last site. That site was embarrassing for any typographic professional.

On Sep.08.2002 at 12:40 PM
Armin’s comment is:

That site was embarrassing for any typographic professional.

Interesting. Would you care to ellaborate?

On Sep.08.2002 at 01:08 PM
Steven G’s comment is:

If it is still online please provide a link so others can judge. I remember poor = slow navigation... poor use of bitmap fonts... bad layout in general ... disorganized navig. structure ... bad splash page ... dumb mouse-over on splash page ... one section where you mixed eight or nine fonts, including the godawful LUSHUS. Just a horrible viewer experience all around. I wanted to leave when you made fun of 3D Photoshop stuff. Yes it does mean something! But not to you because you don't know how to do it.
on this site some problems. Currently.

* a sans would look way better than a serif.
* Take a look at your color blocks. Lopsided site.
* The little dingbats or ornament things are good. The mustaches are not and are already tired. Shave those pubbies.
* the cursive looking bitmap font is actually nice. Is it yours.
* what is 01-05, 06-10, 11-15 on the left column?
* the puke green on the mouseover. poor.
* simpleton Speak Up logo. Hardly professional.
* Calling yourself -- The guy in charge is kinda pompous.
* Cooper Black deserves better than what you show in your Short Story. Some dude had something way better a couple months back.
* the eye magazine logo is not good NO MATTER what you say. All it is is a font from Thirst with a circle around it.
Sorry but you said SPEAK UP. Do you have a portfolio to share. Other than that. At least your site didn't crash my browser.

On Sep.08.2002 at 08:42 PM
Armin’s comment is:

That's much better. Ok, I will not comment on all the things you said, most of them are based on personal taste and there is no point in going there, it will just be an endless discussion.

-Here is the link to the old site.

poor = slow navigation - I agree, that's the main reason why I wanted to redesign.

I wanted to leave when you made fun of 3D Photoshop stuff. Yes it does mean something! But not to you because you don't know how to do it. - Maybe you SHOULD have left. So... what does it mean?

And you are right I don't know how to do it, because there is no point in learning how to. Every wannabe "designer" knows how though. Funny.

The mustaches are not and are already tired. Shave those pubbies. - Thanks for the tip, but I will stick with my mustaches.

the cursive looking bitmap font is actually nice. Is it yours. - Nope, found it somewhere, can't remember where.

what is 01-05, 06-10, 11-15 on the left column? - Did you click on them? No? ok, then click on them.

the puke green on the mouseover. poor. - I refer to it as booger green, but puke green works too.

the eye magazine logo is not good NO MATTER what you say - so because you say it is not good that makes it true? dude, is this how you settle all arguments. Is your opinion the last and best in graphic design?

Cooper Black deserves better than what you show in your Short Story. - Maybe. Why don't you tell us what it deserves?

Do you have a portfolio to share - Here you go dude, tear it to pieces, it seems to make you happy.

Even though I could sense some sort of anger, this is a good discussion. Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I guess Steven's is the only good and valid one. Oh! and how about providing a link that actually works?

On Sep.09.2002 at 08:57 AM
plain*clothes’s comment is:

a very nice improvement. the last site was nice simply for its individuality. this site is by no means unique in the realm of blogs, but it is infinitely more readable and that is the most important aspect.

Steven G commented that a sans would be more appropriate, which I think is a naive comment in regard to your rather Victorian design aesthetic. if readability is his concern, I would recommend being certian M Carter's Georgia is set as his default serif. for on-screen reading, I prefer either Georgia or J Hoefler's Geometer. since the latter certainly does not have a wide user base, Georgia would be my first choice.

my single request is that the site be narrower, or at least somewhat fluid in this regard. I have my windows set with a good deal of gap area on the right so I can access my desktop quickly. with your current layout I have to fill my 1024 pixels of width to really make use of your three collumns. the only other option is having to scroll horizontally as well as vertically -- that _really_ sucks!

ps, thanks for getting the word out on typographica, it's my favorite daily resource. it would be great to generate further interest, though I suspect it may indeed be calling to a very limited audience.

On Sep.09.2002 at 12:36 PM
Hrant’s comment is:

Armin, really beautiful site.

Real quick:

1. Keep the serif.

2. Your colors have a nice unique balance.

3. Last night I went to a supermarket and one of the employees was wearing a nametag that said "Person in Charge" - it was cute.

4. "Rowdy"? You want me to drive over and breaka your face, ey? ;->

Keep it up! (Literally)


On Sep.09.2002 at 04:07 PM
Armin’s comment is:

with your current layout I have to fill my 1024 pixels of width to really make use of your three collumns.

Plain*clothes: I hear you. But here is my reasoning, I decided to step beyond the 800 x 600 limit that has kept most web sites quite narrow. I thought "if it fits in my iMac screen, I'm going for it" and it did. I'm not saying "go out and buy a bigger screen you cheapscake" but I think people are getting bigger screens, with higher resolutions. I'll definitely keep your comment in mind if I make any changes.

On Sep.10.2002 at 08:51 AM
Armin’s comment is:

a nametag that said "Person in Charge" - it was cute.

Thanks, I really wasn't sure about "the guy".

On Sep.10.2002 at 08:53 AM
Sam’s comment is:

Congr-adulations to one and all on Speak Up's first year!

Fingersnaps all around.

It's been very interesting to watch the site grow and evolve. Long may it continue!

On Sep.05.2003 at 11:06 AM
Daniel [2004]’s comment is:

Armin, not only have you created a great design blog that keeps us all informed and involved, you have created a time machine. This is Daniel from the year 2004. Right now [my time], Speakup is actually 2 years old.

I'm traveling back to this post to let you know that everything works out great; Speakup takes off. Loads of people will get involved with in the next two years. I didn't lounge/spend my free time with SpeakUp for the full two years, so I can't go into details of your adventures ahead. What I can tell ya, is, two years from now, you will be in preparation for a big move, and I don't mean your web address.

I can't tell you much more than that, I don't know, fully, the consequences of telling your future. I mean we've all seen the movies right, Marty McFly and Dr. Emmett Brown going back and screwing up the past and changing the future; but thats Hollywood, following that information to closely could constitute a liability.

Congratulations Armin, I look forward to getting to know you better in the coming years.

Cheers for your efforts.


On Sep.09.2004 at 11:01 AM
Armin [2004]’s comment is:

Hey Armin, this is you from 2004. There is this crazy guy, his name is Daniel, he is really weird. He might try to contact you from the future, don't listen to him, he's unreliable and thinks he can travel through time� he actually thinks Speak Up is a time machine� what a wacko, huh?

: )

On Sep.09.2004 at 02:07 PM
debbie millman’s comment is:

not a wacko at all...I do it all the time.

my only advice is this: watch out for that she-devil chick. and don't buy hershey or burger king stock. you probably want to stay away from anything star wars related, as well.

oh, one more thing: felix will keep changing his name. he's a sneaky, cheeky monkey.

two bloody years...

and I do mean bloody.

what fun.

On Sep.09.2004 at 04:07 PM
Armin [2004]’s comment is:

Armin, one more thing, around May of 2003 do not hesitate on calling things turds. It's a good descriptor for work you don't like. You might piss off some people, but you might make a friend out of it.

On Sep.09.2004 at 09:17 PM
unnikrishna’s comment is:

Hi Armin

Happy Birthday!

Looking great!

It is different from usual design websites.

colour, use of type, layout etc.

no hurry. not busy, no shouting

calm, cool but lively!

just ignore the jealousy comments! such comments do not deserve an answer.

i think when we comment on design our personal likes or dislikes should not come on our way.

"I don't like it" is most common comment we have heard so far.

where's the brief?

If your brief matches the design.that's it.

brief is measuring device.

even if you do not like it, professionaly you must like it.

On Sep.11.2004 at 07:57 AM
M Kingsley’s comment is:

>two bloody years...

>and I do mean bloody.

About a year ago, in an interview with guitarist John McLaughlin; John Schaefer asked McLaughlin's opinion on contemporary jazz. The response, "there's not enough blood on the floor", has stayed with me ever since.

Armin — thanks for your tireless efforts and congratulations on their fruitful return.

On Sep.11.2004 at 12:33 PM
Jeff Gill [2005]’s comment is:

It's still great in 2005 (and still very bloody).

On Sep.05.2005 at 03:24 PM
ranurry’s comment is:

what am I missing? is there a new site? I don't "see" anything new 'round hear? what am I missing about this post? homepage for three months now +/- still the same as I've know it?



On Sep.05.2005 at 08:52 PM
Armin’s comment is:

Ryan, this is a three-year old thread (see original), which happens to mark our anniversary.

So, nope, no new nuthin'.

On Sep.05.2005 at 08:56 PM
ranurry’s comment is:


Thank you! ;) >>> Sorry for the confussion! ;) hehe - the thread tweaked me!?

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!!! CONGRATS!! Glad to be a part of it!

Keep up the great work! My longest homepage EVER!!! SPEAK UP or DIE!!! hehehe jk jk


On Sep.06.2005 at 10:37 AM