sounds like fun. I won't be able to participate in the discussion because I am travelling Europe in the fall, but I will certainly read the book.

armin-

are you going to set up an amazon referral button thingy?

If you click on the link on the original post it uses the amazon assciate account.

SOund fun, will order this evening....or hit B & N!!! :)

got it, so excited!!! Started reading last night!

i got my book at the beginning of the week. also bought citizen designer. i'll let you know how that one is later.

looking at screen, i'm thinking that maybe discussing chapters as we go would be a good idea. since most of us who will participate in the discussion will probably end up rereading those columns if we were to read a large section first. there are a broad range of topics in the book, and all are very interesting. i wish i was rich enough to have subscribed to eye for the last few years so i could have read the columns as they were issued.

When does the discussion start, Kiran?

>When does the discussion start, Kiran?

The original plan was for everybody to have the book by end of last week. I ordered mine week and a half ago and got some bogus email that my order was late. Whatever. I think some people already have it, should we give the rest of this week for people (like me) to get it? Or just screw those people (like me) and start reading this week?

When does the discussion start, Kiran?

should we give the rest of this week for people (like me) to get it?

I say give it another week. Start reading on the 1st or the 2nd, after Labor Day. What do y'all think?

Because I am a dumbass, I bought 2 copies of "Screen" from Amazon. Anyone who would like to buy my extra copy, it's only $12.00. It is supposedly used, but seems new--no markings at all. The cover seems a little dusty, that's all. first come, first serve.

Thanks,

Sam

I just got my copy too, and it was also dusty. I do have some ranting to do on the cover. Wasn't Jessica H., herself, ranting in Emigre 64 about faux information graphics and how designers place table of contents in the covers of books to appear as if more important? And if I remember correctly, the tone was very condescending to those lowering themselves to such, cheap manipulating tactics of graphical elements to imply seriousness.

Aw yeah, bring it on!

Aw yeah, bring it on!

Oh shit...

So reading begins this weekend? What do you all think about a start date and are we agreed on breaking it into sections as mentioned above?

It'll get more specific, just want a show of hands.

>So reading begins this weekend?

I think next week is still cool. I was just getting warmed up and exercising those ranting vocals.

You are all in for a good read...sure to stir up some comments around this neck of the woods.

Ok, by now everybody (who's interested) should have their copy by now. Kiran is hard at work coming up with questions. How does this sound: split the book into two sessions as suggested above, and we'll start the first one in... say, two weeks? Voice your opinion if it's too little or too much time to read half the book.

This is a very good book! Two weeks sounds like enough time for everyone to get their thoughts straight, and breaking it into sections is a must. We might need more than two though, maybe break it down into the 4 or 5 sections of the book? We wouldn't want this to drag on too long, but there's a great deal to talk about in this little thing. Anyway, I'm sure the discussion will be great, regardless. Can't wait for this one...

concerning Armin's pre-rant:

I just got my copy too, and it was also dusty.

So was mine. That's most likely the matte laminate / black cover combination, scratches and scuffs and stuff tend to show up really easily.

faux information graphics; table of contents in covers

I think Mr. Keedy said the specific bit about contents on covers, and I think his was the one with the more condescending tone. Helfand / Drenttel's rant was mostly about designers who co-opt the form/appearence of scientific modernism ('Damien Hirst-ization'), but I guess her cover counts as 'good modernism.' :)

Quick update y'all, I'm getting some questions/thoughts to Armin later today for posting. Been quite sick, please bear with me! Thanks.