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UnderConsideration, Untethered

For more than eight years I have had a steady job with a regular income, assured healthcare coverage, and varyingly satisfying bonuses at the end of the year. From my early days as a 1-in-11,000 employee earning $35,000-a-year I have climbed the creative ladder (as well as the United States, geographically speaking, from Atlanta to New York) with stops at Norman Design in Chicago, Decker Design in New York, and, until last Thursday, September 27th, at Pentagram in New York. An evolution climactically leading up to my next move: A 2-person, 1-baby, 2-cat design firm in our own unheatable basement in Brooklyn, with an irregular income, unconfirmed healthcare coverage (as of this writing), and no bonus in sight come December. But, as co-owner with Bryony, I couldn’t be more excited about the undetermined future of the recently, officially and eagerly incorporated UnderConsideration LLC.

Until now — that is, before the arrival of our lovely 5-month-old Maya — I had been able to balance highly demanding full-time jobs with weeknights and weekends spent on Speak Up. And in the last year I somehow survived Pentagram, plus Speak Up, plus Brand New, plus Quipsologies, plus (not nearly as much as I would have liked) The Design Encyclopedia, plus The Word It Book. As hard as I worked, and as many sunny weekends as I have missed, it always paid off when someone would ask how I did it all, and I would briskly shrug my shoulders and (perhaps not-so) modestly accept my own inexplicable ability to manage it all. But in August, as I returned to work from a generous paternity leave, I quickly realized that the answer to how I did it all was becoming “I don’t, and I can’t”. Not enough energy, not enough time and an unavoidable urge to spend my free time with my girl(s) made it hard to keep up with the demand. So this proved to be the tipping point, and Reason #1, that would flicker Bryony and I into making the decision we always thought we would make but were never quite ready: Start our own design firm.

In preparation for this moment, Bryony had left her previous job — which until now had put us in the very comfortable category of New York DINKs (Double Income, No Kids) — two Aprils ago to start setting up shop (and, yes, nest). On the other hand, I had the unbelievably good fortune of working with Michael Bierut at Pentagram — a job that anyone in their right mind would not think about leaving — that, besides providing a monthly paycheck, proved to be the most illuminating design education I have received. Needless to say, I had no reason or urge to leave — it was a sweet situation with great work, great clients and great people to sit with day in and day out. They say having kids changes your priorities and perspectives, and I always dismissed that notion as sentimental BS. I couldn’t have been more wrong. Seeing Maya for 20 minutes in the morning and an hour at most in the evening turned out to be, well, lame. So, as Reason #2, having the possibility of being home instead of sitting in a crowded, stinky and loud subway for up to two hours a day, and sharing lunch with the family, was more impetus.

Reason #3 is finally the one that concerned our financial and professional situation: Can we produce a large percentage of our income from blogging? Can we afford healthcare, mortgage and diapers? Can we win new clients? Can we find balance between business and pleasure? Can we work together? We are finally at a place where the four sites of UnderConsideration generate enough traffic to attract serious advertising partnerships — we hereby invite you to consider our advertisers’ services first : ) — that could allow us to focus much more energy and time into them. Because we have fostered healthy and friendly relationships with our employers we can count on referrals from them to win new clients or support old ones. And, because for Bryony and I, business and pleasure have always been intertwined and we have worked successfully on a variety of projects we are somewhat confident that we will not scratch each other’s eyes out. We can’t vouch for our cats’ though.

So what does this mean for Speak Up and the rest of UnderConsideration? Well, we hope to infuse all four web sites with much more input, content and variety. UnderConsideration, which has long caused confusion to everyone, even us, is now officially the parent company, and our legal and financial entity. Through it we will publish online as we’ve done so far, and if this Fall is any indication, we will be able to create more content off-line as we will be publishing two books in 2008 — The Women of Design, with HOW Books, a look at their great work and legacy; and Graphic Design, Referenced, a 400-page, visually-driven reference guide for all the things you should know about our profession with Rockport. As we settle on our schedule we will look to revive our live seriouSeries events (fingers crossed!) in New York and, mayhaps, across the U.S. And, most excitingly, through our Department of Design we will serve clients as well as our own publications and efforts. The ideas and endeavors we want to pursue are ambitious and numerous, and, even at the risk of finding ourselves in the “how do we do it all?” conundrum again, we hope to be able to enrich the design profession through our work and energy — your simple appreciation and involvement will be our year-end bonus. And we couldn’t ask for more.

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PUBLISHED ON Oct.02.2007 BY Armin
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Comments
Doug B’s comment is:

Congrats!

Autonomy is priceless (but tiring)

On Oct.02.2007 at 05:25 PM
Christian Palino’s comment is:

Congratulations – and best of luck, though I am sure as you have shown us, you won't need it!

On Oct.02.2007 at 05:26 PM
Moriarty’s comment is:

Good luck guys – it'll be bloody hard work but it's worth it.

On Oct.02.2007 at 05:33 PM
Dave Werner’s comment is:

This is great news; congratulations. I'm looking forward to watching Under Consideration grow and evolve over the next few years.

On Oct.02.2007 at 05:36 PM
Dennis Eusebio’s comment is:

Congratulations on taking the leap. Its amazing what you've done while working full-time. I can't wait to see what you guys will accomplish while working only on Under Consideration.

On Oct.02.2007 at 06:18 PM
Geof Harries’s comment is:

I made the same move in February, leaving a comfortable senior position at a terrific agency in order to start my own design business and help take care of our two young kids (3 year old girl and 1 year old boy) on a part-time basis.

There will be tough stretches - toddlers and babies are loud and needy at the most inappropriate moments - but I'd trade hugs, slides, trucks and books for a regular paycheque and water cooler chat any day.

On Oct.02.2007 at 06:23 PM
Andrew’s comment is:

Best wishes to you both Armin/Bryony. It's a big undertaking but i'm sure you will manage. I'm doubly sure Michael and everyone at Pentagram will be sad to see you go.

On Oct.02.2007 at 06:47 PM
Alberto Rigau’s comment is:

I bet now it will be surpirse after surprise… can't wait to be experience the new transformations. Saludos y felicidades!

On Oct.02.2007 at 06:54 PM
Alfonso’s comment is:

Wow. Congratulations. I wish the three of you (five?) the best. Exciting times lay ahead.

On Oct.02.2007 at 06:55 PM
Paul Riehle’s comment is:

Good luck to you both, looking forward to how underconsideration evolves.

On Oct.02.2007 at 07:04 PM
james song’s comment is:

you guys are a beacon in the design community, and i'm ecstatic for all of you. here's to more design and more autonomy!

On Oct.02.2007 at 07:05 PM
Tselentis’s comment is:

Jesus, this is great. Huge!

On Oct.02.2007 at 08:05 PM
pnk’s comment is:

Bravo, and congratulations, to the both of you. I wish you all nothing but success. And I strongly suspect that your future will leave your past in the dust... in terms of happiness at least. Hope your finances follow suit.

On Oct.02.2007 at 08:08 PM
Ray Marrero’s comment is:

Once again, a truely touching post—it will be interesting to see how your many projects will evolve going forward.
I wish the three of you good luck and much success.

On Oct.02.2007 at 08:39 PM
George Del Barrio’s comment is:

hmm, untethered, indeed. and if you thought you worked hard before, wait'll you see how many more sunny afternoons find you chained to your desk now.

but all the same, there is no better life. well, so long as there's enough room to shoo screaming babies to the opposite side of the house when clients call...

best of luck, guys.

On Oct.02.2007 at 09:06 PM
Kyle Hildebrant’s comment is:

Congrats. You will look back and realize this is THE best decision you have ever made.

Cheers.

On Oct.02.2007 at 09:20 PM
Hollis’s comment is:

Awesome Armin, be sure to treat yourself to some frisée and a blood orange every now and then to keep the 'ol design tummy in check. You'll soon realize how spoiled you were with the best lunch cafeteria in New York!

Mucha suerte a los dos.

On Oct.02.2007 at 09:43 PM
Jon Dascola’s comment is:

Rock out. Add my name to the list of supporters.

On Oct.02.2007 at 10:15 PM
richard’s comment is:

Big ups and CONGRATULATIONS on this exciting, sure to be successful, new chapter!

On Oct.02.2007 at 10:30 PM
Randy J. Hunt’s comment is:

Awesome, awesome, awesome.

On Oct.02.2007 at 10:55 PM
jhayne’s comment is:

Reason #1 shows you are completely in your right mind for leaving even Pentagram. Bravo and best wishes!

On Oct.02.2007 at 11:10 PM
Nate Hook’s comment is:

With bold new decisions come bold new rewards, may your feet never stumble and may many great adventures lie ahead.

Best of luck in all things.

On Oct.02.2007 at 11:13 PM
Prescott Perez-Fox’s comment is:

Onwards and upwards, dear friends. You're not the first bloggers to quit your day jobs, and you won't be the last. Either way, I'll be reading!

On Oct.02.2007 at 11:30 PM
Shane Guymon’s comment is:

Congrats!

Can't wait to see what the future holds for you and your family/company.

On Oct.02.2007 at 11:39 PM
Kevin M. Scarbrough’s comment is:

I wish you both the best of luck! I can't wait to see the developments unfold. You have both been an incredible inspiration.

On Oct.03.2007 at 12:03 AM
debbie millman’s comment is:

hugs and big love to you, big daddy. i am (and have always been) so proud of you. congratulations.

On Oct.03.2007 at 01:09 AM
Keith McCord’s comment is:

You go away for a little while and suddenly there is a new design firm!! You guys have done amazing things with UnderConsideration thus far and I'm sure UnderConsideration LLC holds many more twists & turns. Best of luck to you. We the people are truly the beneficiaries from this endeavour, but I'm sure there are many personal rewards that will come your way!!!

On Oct.03.2007 at 01:27 AM
jose illenberger’s comment is:

Congrats Armin and Goodluck!

On Oct.03.2007 at 04:00 AM
julien’s comment is:

Congrats
It's a hard decision to take, but I'm sure you made the good choice. Thanks for what you do here.

On Oct.03.2007 at 04:21 AM
Jeff Gill’s comment is:

Well done.
I've loved your work so far.
I expect that your future output will be even more wonderful.
Much happiness!

On Oct.03.2007 at 04:29 AM
JJ’s comment is:

congrats, armin. A courageous decision that I'm sure will be rewarding.

On Oct.03.2007 at 07:38 AM
Pesky’s comment is:

What's left to say when everyone has already said it so well? Jeff echoes my sentiments: much happiness to you....

On Oct.03.2007 at 09:19 AM
Pesky’s comment is:

What's left to say when everyone has already said it so well? Jeff echoes my sentiments: much happiness to you....

On Oct.03.2007 at 09:22 AM
Pesky’s comment is:

OK, what an idiot: it came out twice.... how about you add an edit feature to this blog?

On Oct.03.2007 at 09:25 AM
Gunnar Swanson’s comment is:

We can’t vouch for our cats’ though.

I'll vouch for them. Having spent the night with them (purely platonic, I assure you) on a couple of occasions, I can attest to the fact that they are, pardon the expression, pussycats.

I'll see you (sans cats, I assume) next week in Denver.

Buena suerte, amigos.

On Oct.03.2007 at 10:25 AM
Rahul Jha’s comment is:

congrats! and all the best...

On Oct.03.2007 at 11:04 AM
Sean Flanagan’s comment is:

My God I am happy for you! I think I'm jealous that you'll be able to take your well-deserved visits to the Mexicos (New and old) without requesting time off or wondering how it will affect your schedule. The articles about those trips are truly my favorites on Speak Up. Now they can be part of your business! Congrats!

On Oct.03.2007 at 11:58 AM
Unnikrishna Menon Damodaran’s comment is:

Armin, What a coincidence.I have just got a gift from freelanceswitch.com, a book titled The 4-Hour Work week -escape 9-5, live anywhere and join the new rich-by Timothy Ferriss. Goodluck, Armin & Bryony, i wish i could do the same.

On Oct.03.2007 at 12:02 PM
Kevin’s comment is:

Congratulations! and thanks, an inspiration as always...

On Oct.03.2007 at 12:04 PM
Dav’s comment is:

That post, and your decision beyond, is a breathtaking, motivational inspiration. (I am currently rethinking my 'masterplan', as well. I did so in the past and this may as well take some more time, but as of now, I am writing my own 'manifest(o)' as to what I think life and work and play should be/feel like. ;) Again, as I posted this over at BrandNew before: Congratulations and may the (creative) force be with you. ;) Doodle with DoD.

On Oct.03.2007 at 12:39 PM
Joe Moran’s comment is:

Way cool!

Very Respectfully,

On Oct.03.2007 at 12:44 PM
Daniel Green’s comment is:

Congrats! Since nothing succeeds like success, you will do well, I'm sure. Best wishes!

On Oct.03.2007 at 01:04 PM
Feldhouse’s comment is:

Congratulations, Bryony and Armin! I wish you all the best!

On Oct.03.2007 at 01:08 PM
Jonathan Hoefler’s comment is:

A new baby and a new business? Goodness, now we're never going to be able to have that lunch...

Congratulations and best wishes to you both!

J

On Oct.03.2007 at 01:13 PM
felix’s comment is:

babies are where its at, baby.

I've managed to do it with two here at the house for close to 3 years now. You'll save time in commute, get more accomplished and be able to enjoyt the true fruits of your labor (er, coitus).

Just don't sit in the basement too long (theres a coffee shop with WIFI down the street).

Cheers.

On Oct.03.2007 at 01:22 PM
Steve Mock’s comment is:

I love babies. And good moms and dads.

You guys are great.

On Oct.03.2007 at 01:53 PM
Andrew J Klein’s comment is:

You are my heros.

Cheers!

On Oct.03.2007 at 02:08 PM
Samuel Sutanto’s comment is:

I wish you all the Best Armin. It was great to meet with you when I went to New York.

On Oct.03.2007 at 02:21 PM
Samuel Sutanto’s comment is:

I wish you all the Best Armin. Thanks again for the interview, it was great to meet with you when I visited New York.

On Oct.03.2007 at 02:22 PM
Andrew Twigg’s comment is:

This is great. You'll love working exclusively for yourselves more than anything you can imagine. I'm certain of it. Congrats!

On Oct.03.2007 at 04:10 PM
DC’s comment is:

Congrads and good luck!

On Oct.03.2007 at 04:47 PM
Lyndi Parrett’s comment is:

CONGRATS to you both for exploring what your intuition is telling you. babies, cats & design - how could it get better!

please let me know if i can be of any help in the future - i will for sure use your sponsored links for needed info.

again, CONGRATS!
lyndi :)

On Oct.03.2007 at 04:58 PM
Parrish Ticer’s comment is:

I'm sure I'll continue to be truly amazed by what you come up with next. How you do it all is inspirational. Keep up the good work, and welcome to the world of being "functionally unemployable".

On Oct.03.2007 at 05:24 PM
Joe Schwartz’s comment is:

The same situation for me (sort of) five years ago. I had a comfortable job for ten years as a Senior AD for for a professional sports league when my position was "eliminated" and I was let go with six months severance and a 3-year old at home. They didn't know I had been looking to get out for a couple of years, interviewing with places closer to home so that I didn't have to continue with the "20 minutes in the AM, 30 minutes in the PM" schedule I had with my son. Now, I teach computer graphics and design 5 minutes from home and I see my TWO sons as much as I want. I'm even able to handle a few freelance clients - when I want to have them, on my terms - SWEEET!

Best of luck - it will be harrowing, but so worth it!

On Oct.03.2007 at 06:46 PM
Mr One-Hundred’s comment is:

Congratulations!

Putting the family first is always the right decision.

On Oct.03.2007 at 09:33 PM
Michael R Johnson’s comment is:

Simply, Congratulations.

On Oct.03.2007 at 09:44 PM
ed mckim’s comment is:

since it's on everyone's mind, yet no one else has asked in behalf of me, I'll go ahead and ask:

are you hiring any entry level designers? :-P

all jokes aside, congratulations and good luck!

ed

On Oct.04.2007 at 01:52 AM
Greg Scraper’s comment is:

I'd wish you luck, but you don't really need it. I'd wish you happiness, but it looks like you found it. I'd wish you success, but that seems forthcoming.

So, for now, I'll just say congratulations.

On Oct.04.2007 at 09:52 AM
Cactus Jones’s comment is:

On behalf of every man looking out for every girl You are the god and the weight of her world   So fathers, be good to your daughters Daughters will love like you do Girls become lovers who turn into mothers So mothers be good to your daughters, too

                                        —John Mayer

On Oct.04.2007 at 11:49 AM
Sheldon Popiel’s comment is:

Congrats Armin! Best of everything to you and Bryony.

I'm sure we'll be in touch in your new capacity as well.

S.

On Oct.04.2007 at 03:21 PM
marian bantjes’s comment is:

I'm late to the public congrats, but you already know I think you're going to be terrifically happy.

On Oct.04.2007 at 03:23 PM
Shahla’s comment is:

I love the authoritarian ring of it:
DOD

Soon we'll be seeing it quite a bit in print, I'm sure -congratulations.

For me UC:DOD brings back old memories of the identity problem brought to our class at ArtCenter by the Lawrence Livermore Laboratory (LLL) as a sponsored project. Struggling to avoid the trite triple 'L' solutions, we also wrangled with placement of the subtext necessary on business cards and letterhead:
Managed by the University of California, Berkeley for the the Department of Defense

On Oct.04.2007 at 09:31 PM
Shahla’s comment is:

Ha! That 'the' I mistakenly typed in twice just now actually demonstrates how much we needed to edit the 'bad copy.'
: )

On Oct.04.2007 at 09:38 PM
Shahla’s comment is:

That was a memory from 1994. In fact, it was the Department of Energy, not DoD and the subtext was "operated by," not "managed by." I was recalling, mainly, the discussion with the sponsors about the international non-proliferation activities vis-a-vis the DoE's association with the Laboratory. So it's easy to see why I mixed them up given what has transpired in the meantime.

They came out of that project retaining 'National' in their name. We had been asked to explore the possibilities without it, due to their global mission and because that's what they're called for short. The mark they have is a single striated 'L' that looks more like 3 L's.

Now that it's all cleared-up, Armin and Bryony, Department of Design is a great identity and I wish you good health (to build-up your bodies' defenses against disease) and boundless Energy : )

On Oct.04.2007 at 10:44 PM
DesignMaven’s comment is:

Forgive me for not SHARING EVERYBODY'S SENTIMENT.

HAVE YOU LOST YOUR DAMN MIND ARMIN???!!!

Congrats on the Bebito.

MAYA MAVEN, cute.

I'm available as a Consultant for $ 2000.00 a Day.

Personal Advice:

DON'T LOOK BACK, YOU MAY REGRET IT.

Focus on whatever will pay both of you the most money. Identity is the most Lucrative but Episodic. Without question the most rewarding and fulfilling

Print, Advertising and Web Design will keep you busy.

I know that certain time of the year you and Bryony will FOCUS on Designing Annual Reports.

Welcome to the CLUB, REALITY CHECK:

I wish I had a GOD DAMN JOB and STEADY PAYCHECK.

ELATED YOU'RE BACK.

SPEAK UP WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN WITHOUT TAN LE.

DM

The Hostile Takeover of Corporate Identity

On Oct.05.2007 at 12:02 PM
Pesky’s comment is:

Design Maven, the joy of dis-employment:

Like Kirk Douglas as Spartacus freeing the slaves...

On Oct.05.2007 at 12:51 PM
Pesky’s comment is:

Design Maven,

The joy of dis-employment is like watching Kirk Douglas as Spartacus free the Roman slaves: at first you run deliriously through the fields and then you get hungry....then you think about what you're gonna do tomorrow...

On Oct.05.2007 at 12:59 PM
Tony’s comment is:

Welcome to the world of independence, Armin. It is joyously flat. The water's fine. Collaboration blossoms. (Let's talk!)

On Oct.05.2007 at 06:10 PM
Greg’s comment is:

Alright, now I'm confused. Something about Design Maven running through a field of collaboration blossoms?

On Oct.06.2007 at 08:34 AM
Ricardo Cordoba’s comment is:

Dear Armin and Bryony,

I am late to the news, but all my best wishes to you in this new endeavor! I know you guys will succeed on your own terms, and what is better than that?

On Oct.06.2007 at 01:14 PM
Sharon Van Lieu’s comment is:

Congratulations! You and Bryony are so talented, I'm sure your success will exceed your expectations.

Sharon

On Oct.07.2007 at 01:03 AM
ps’s comment is:

i guess it's been a while in the making. the obvious move - finally.
congrats. good luck.

On Oct.07.2007 at 10:21 PM
Andy Malhan’s comment is:

Keep your overheads low. Never bill less than you're worth, no matter what.

You're both immensely talented designers. Learn the business part of the deal and you'll do well. Ignore it at your own peril!

Good luck!

On Oct.08.2007 at 04:07 AM
Armin’s comment is:

Thanks to everyone for their best wishes. The first week proved to be busy enough.

On Oct.08.2007 at 08:57 AM
Kyle Hildebrant’s comment is:

One last word of wisdom:

Never be afraid to NOT take a project/client.

It is a very, very slippery slope.

Congrats.

On Oct.08.2007 at 01:46 PM
Mary Campbell’s comment is:

“Whatever course you decide upon, there is always someone to tell you that you are wrong. There are always difficulties arising which tempt you to believe that your critics are right. To map out a course of action and follow it to an end requires courage.” - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Congratulations on your courageous decision!

On Oct.08.2007 at 09:03 PM
Laura’s comment is:

This announcement makes me happy.

So happy for the three of you, and for this online community. We needed more Armin and Byrony.

On Oct.08.2007 at 10:51 PM
Rick Slusher’s comment is:

Congrats and good luck!! Can't wait to see what the future holds for you!

On Oct.10.2007 at 12:28 PM
david’s comment is:

Congratulations! I'm very excited for you and your family! :)

On Oct.10.2007 at 02:04 PM
Todd’s comment is:

Great news Armin! I hope y'all are doing well. I'll be selling my autographed copies of HOW on e-bay someday. I'll give you the proceeds!

On Oct.17.2007 at 01:57 PM
Bob Zeni’s comment is:

Are you crazy?

You will starve! Your children will have no shoes! New clothing will be a thing of the past! You will forgo bathing! Electricity will be a luxury! You'll devolve into trilobyte guy in a terabyte age, an analog guy in a digital world!

Quick call Michael! Maybe it's not too late!

On Oct.18.2007 at 06:54 PM
Armin’s comment is:

> You will forgo bathing!

You mean I shouldn't have forgone it when I moved to New York to begin with?

On Oct.18.2007 at 07:51 PM
Bob Zeni’s comment is:

Well, city does rhyme with gritty.

On Oct.19.2007 at 10:01 AM
cat’s comment is:

Congrats Armin! I'll be looking forward to articles describing how you both settled into job and cats and kids.

(hint) (hint)

On Oct.21.2007 at 11:25 AM
sarah walker’s comment is:

Finally got out from under MB's evil powers I see. Oh those were the days... Congrats all around! And a baby girl - how perfect. S

On Oct.22.2007 at 09:41 PM
Tan’s comment is:

Dude, I had no idea. You should've told me about this when ran into each other in Denver!

I know EXACTLY where you guys are at -- I opened and started my firm with a business partner exactly 2 weeks before my wife gave birth to our first child.

People thought I was crazy, but I knew exactly what I was doing. Or at least I did at the time.

Sometimes it's better not to know, not to have everything planned out, just to grab the brass ring and hang on for the ride.

No risk, no glory, as they say. That's never been wrong in my life.

I'd say good luck, but it's not about luck. It's more "Enjoy the ride." Both with the business, the kid, the time with your beautiful wife and business partner.

On Oct.26.2007 at 04:57 PM
Inaudible Nonsense’s comment is:

Huh. As I spend another night at the sort of midlevel communications company hydra that I call a job. Thinking about taking a much lower pay to work at industry setting museum where I will hone my exhibition design skills. With a plan for grad school in architecture -- I think: is this nuts? I'm 33. I've got a family of two that I'm the majority bread earner in. I don't even LIKE living in DC. But this and the comments are really inspirational. Sometimes you just have to do it.

Best of luck to you both. I can't wait to see what happens going forward. Someday, maybe I'll even be in a position that will pay for a trip to an AIGA conference where I too will bump into you.

On Oct.30.2007 at 09:58 PM
Tan’s comment is:

Inaudible -- nevermind how old you are now. Instead, think about what you want to say when you're 40, and make it happen.

I've found that time goes quickly when you're stagnant and aimless. If you just put your head down, go to work day in and day out to collect a paycheck -- then 10 years will go by in the blink of an eye. But if you challenge yourself, jump into the unknown, and take a little or a lot of risk everyday -- you'll find that you can move mountains in a relatively short period of time.

Don't let age be an excuse for your fears.

Julia Childs didn't decide to go to cooking school until she was almost 50. Martha Stewart didn't write her first cookbook until she was in her 30s.

On Oct.31.2007 at 02:13 PM
Amanda Woodward’s comment is:

I was on holidays for a month and missed this - Congratulations.

(Which I would like to point out, is one of the lovely benefits of being self employed along with your husband/wife)

Once you get the sweet sweet taste of working with your spouse you'll never go back. You two will tear it up, I just know it!

On Nov.05.2007 at 10:21 AM
Hutch’s comment is:

Very nice::Congratulations!

On Nov.05.2007 at 10:28 AM