A CONVERSATION WITH
![Jolene Delisle and Diego Barragan, The Working Assembly](https://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/049-Jolene_Diego.jpg)
Jolene Delisle and Diego Barragan, The Working Assembly
AND
![Victor Guardiola and Jordan Hicks, Bawi](https://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/049-victor_jordan.jpg)
Victor Guardiola and Jordan Hicks, Bawi
See full post with images
Download transcript (PDF)
Questions about The Follow-up?
More information here
More episodes here
The Follow-up is now Available to Everyone!
Find it on:
![](https://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/wp/wp-content/themes/make/_images/the_followup_listen_on_apple.png)
![](https://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/wp/wp-content/themes/make/_images/the_followup_listen_on_spotify.png)
Or grab the feed to paste into your favorite podcast player.
SUBSCRIBE